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dramaturgy ([personal profile] dramaturgy) wrote2004-08-20 06:48 pm

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Call me a crazy, liberal Methodist who is going to be the down fall of Christianity... but let the girl have her communion wafer that won't endanger her life. I honestly doubt the Father would care and isn't his opinion the one that counts, anyway?

[identity profile] occultebelta.livejournal.com 2004-08-20 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
*facepalms* No bloody kidding. Maybe not being Catholic, I don't see the big deal, but....
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[personal profile] lessthanpie 2004-08-20 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, good grief. This is why I am a nonpracticing anything (from a Catholic family). I think the spirit of the thing is much more important than the thing itself.

[identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com 2004-08-20 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
But... but... y'know, the miracle of Transsubstantiation! if you use non-gluten products, you won't get Dead Jesus - it could be any random person turns up!

[identity profile] laurus-nobilis.livejournal.com 2004-08-20 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well. That's the kind of things that gives us Catholics a bad name. >_

[identity profile] cesontmesmots.livejournal.com 2004-08-20 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Jesus.

Literally.

Let the kid have her cookie wafer. She's a kid.

[identity profile] duchessdollydot.livejournal.com 2004-08-20 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
*coughs and steps in as the resident Catholic*

This girl's parents aren't the first nor the last to take this opinion on the issue.

Long story short: This is the literal body of Jesus Christ we're talking about, and the bread and wine we use for consecration has to be pure. We've got all sorts of laws as to how to take care of the body of Christ, what we can use for the bread and what we can't-- we can't consecrate a rice wafer into the Body of Christ, it just doesn't work. It wouldn't be God, and it'd defeat the purpose of the sacrament.

She can still drink the blood, which is just as good as eating the flesh. My friend just drinks the wine because she can't have the host. It's not a big deal.

Interesting...

[identity profile] mhw.livejournal.com 2004-08-20 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.dioceseoftrenton.org/department/news_detail.asp?newsid=1005

Though I don't know whether it'll still contain too much gluten for her or not.

*wry smile* This takes me back to when [livejournal.com profile] stgpcm and I first met, and he was explaining that when he was a teen his church celebrated the Eucharist with blackcurrant juice (strictly no booze for God's Elect!) and Ryvita crackers. And - somehow - it still managed to seem weird to me. Though, to be honest, I think juice and crackers would have probably tasted better than out Church of England wafers and wine.

Sheesh. Maybe 2000 years from now someone'll be arguing over the doctrinal correctness of pizza and beer, which is probably what today's Last Supper would be.

[identity profile] inkandalchemy.livejournal.com 2004-08-21 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Coming from a church that used chocolate chip cookies and milk for communion... I'm with you. *facepalms*

[identity profile] mirabehn.livejournal.com 2004-08-21 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
*boggles*

I find that quite appalling.

I was brought up very definitely non-conformist (so grape juice at communion and I'm sure rice wafers wouldn't have been a problem - not that I've ever been a communicant even at a URC/Methodist service), so have of course never believed in transubstantiation. And I can see that believing in transubstantiation would make a bit of difference. But it's still very hard for me to get my head around believing on any level that God would want a girl with coeliac disease to consume wheat, or an alcoholic to consume alcohol.

Mind if I swipe the link and quote it on my own journal? Will of course say where I got it from! I have a lot of liberal Roman and Anglo-Catholics on my friends list who'd find this very interesting. Including one who a) has coeliac disease and b) is hoping to become a priest one day...

And can I say that for such a controversial issue the discussion of it here seems incredibly polite, thoughtful and calm? Go your friends list! *grin*

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